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Bad Santa 2 (2016)

November. 23,2016
| Drama Comedy Crime Mystery

Fueled by cheap whiskey, greed and hatred, Willie Soke teams up with his angry little sidekick, Marcus, to knock off a Chicago charity on Christmas Eve. Along for the ride is chubby and cheery Thurman Merman, a 250-pound ray of sunshine who brings out Willie's sliver of humanity. Issues arise when the pair are joined by Willie's horror story of a mother, who raises the bar for the gang's ambitions, while somehow lowering the standards of criminal behavior.


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Best movie of this year hands down!


Terrible acting, screenplay and direction.


One hour and a half of nothing

Billy Ollie

Through painfully honest and emotional moments, the movie becomes irresistibly relatable


The original 'Bad Santa' from 2003 is a raunchy classic. A washed-up Santa and his elf friend annually rob malls they work at; then Santa's habits are catching up with him and he befriends a kid who he grows to care about. The movie is dark, the jokes are hilarious, and there is so much depth in the characters that give the movie its heart. Anything wrong with a sequel to this? Not at all. Anything wrong with a sequel being made more than a decade after the original? Absolutely. One thing almost certain about sequels that are released a decade or more after the predecessor is that is it will be a hugely inferior retread. Case-in-point, 'Bad Santa 2.''Bad Santa' from 2003 was no masterpiece by any means, but at least everything was fresh and its heart was in the right place. The sequel tries to recapture what worked before with only a few elements coming out good.Billy Bob Thornton returns as the sex-addicted alcky, Willie Soke. He's had a bunch of odd jobs since quitting the heist business, but has not amounted to anything and hasn't changed much. Thurman Merman/The Kid still comes by and annoys Willie. This is the essence of both films that played the groundwork. It's The Kid who makes this sequel worth sitting through. Thurman is going to be 21 in a few days and it's funny to see that he hasn't changed much either. There's a few sexual jokes with Willie and The Kid that I'll admit made me laugh a bit.Then familiar and dull territory gets taken advantage of with the arrival of Willie's old sideckick, Marcus. Willie still isn't over his betrayal, but reluctantly accepts Marcus' plan: steal over a million dollars' worth of donations from a homeless shelter in Chicago. Marcus' man on the inside is Willie's mother played by Kathy Bates. One of my favourite actresses ever is one of the major drawback in this film. It didn't hurt to see her play anybody foul-mouthed, its how bad her writing and delivery of it all was. There's someone else bad on the inside who's a rival, and forgettable and impossible to care for.As as I started, this tries to recycle almost everything of the first. Still lots of sex (actually way more sex this time around), lots of booze, lots of swearing, same setups, same results, and very little is actually funny. Not horrid, just stuff to brush off in an instant. The Kid decides to pay a surprise to Willie as an early Christmas present. This element with Thurman comes the closest to reaching the level of the first. Willie and Thurman is not as good here as it was before, but we still very much enjoy them both this time around. Without Thurman Merman and Willie, the movie would have floundered more and my rating would be lower. But as it is, 'Bad Santa 2' is nothing special, yet not an abysmal failure.


Watched this for two reasons, in spite of hearing of the negative reviews: 1) Watched it as a sort of homage to the original, and 2) I'm sort of wary of 2nd hand info, when it can be easily watched.So, I watched it. The best way to describe it is to remind you of the common preconception of the original "Bad Santa", admittedly gleaned from the previews showing at the time: It was popularly understood to be a "bad boy" yawp, which contrasted wonderfully with the discovery that it worked marvelously as a touching redemption tale. It was a fantastic Christmas movie for the ages, cleverly disguised as a prurient snack toss-off.Well, "Bad Santa 2" IS *that* movie. It is nothing more than the bad-boy snack boredom killer that "Bad Santa" was supposed to have been.Even if I discount the original--decide not to judge "BS2" by the standard of "BS"--it *still* simply fails to rise to the level of a film worth watching, if you expect movies to be more than boredom killers. I got one grim chuckle out of the whole thing, and the rest is pretty much just well-produced spectacle. The flick *is* well-produced... but that's it. There's no real mythic payload, except for a tepid and poorly thought out demi-effort to shoehorn a few would-be redemptive moments in, here and there.It's sad. Is it *really* the case that in all of the Hollywood system, not one decent breakthrough screenplay that would do decent service to the gravitas of the franchise was anywhere to be found? Really?I give this a few stars merely for the expert production work. Aesthetically, it's a sump.Go watch the original; specifically, the director's cut. You might cry tears of redemptive joy.

Chris LaChance

This was a decent attempt at rekindling an old flame. The first Bad Santa set a movie trend years ago, and introduced most of the world to Billy Bob Thornton. This installment was a bit of a let down. The jokes were funny, but felt forced and awkward. The interaction between Bates and Thornton was fun, however there was almost too much animosity between Santa and Elf that Elf was a useless character. Not only did they not have much screen time for the Elf, his lines were almost identical to the first movie. SPOILER The heist was almost not even important in the movie, as by the end you pretty much have lost interest. It is a sad relationship to see between Kathy and Billy's Characters as is most typical family drama. I didn't care for the three of them turning on each other BUT it was hilarious to see Elf get shot AND ran over. That was one of the most realistic scenes I've yet to see on screen. Very accurate depiction of Chicago too! The chubby kid could have used better development, like have him transfer jobs to the Hoagies shop in the Chi and have some rude customers come in(Typical in Chitown) All in all this film hit me hard in a more dramatic way, than comedic. It was kind of sad to see Kathy Bates and Sh****stick trying to kindle their relationship and let by gones be. Good film, just fell a little short, especially for the cult- classic being the ancestor to this.


A awful film with all jokes fro the first just repeated in a more crude fashion with no real store character building or anything of note. Do not watch this film i want my hour and a half back. I did like the first one but this one felt like it was just made for the money i wish i had something positive to say about this film however i do not.